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Monday, September 8th, 2008 may very well turn out to be an even greater and more tragic milestone in our country's history than Tuesday, September 11th, 2001.

As the diarist "auronrenouille" recently noted, in their diary: "The Nationalization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac", this is when the U.S. government will formally announce that they're (re-)taking over those two entities.

The MSM is just getting into this story, and you'll be hearing about this in much greater detail starting tomorrow: "U.S. Rescue Seen At Hand for 2 Mortgage Giants." But, most of us won't get the whole story...because it's far worse than the spin...which is what we've been hearing all along...and what we'll continue to hear as of this weekend and going forward...

Between the two of them, Fannie and Freddie hold, manage and distribute something in the neighborhood of $5-to-$6 TRILLION dollars in mortgage paper. They've offloaded a good chunk of that into the bond markets, and a good portion of those bonds are held by foreign governments (such as the sovereign funds of Russia, and many mid- and far-eastern governments, and lots of the state and municipal and union pension funds, right here in the U.S.).

They're all taking VERY HEAVY HITS on this paper, already. It's only worth a fraction of what they paid for it. If I had to guess, off the top of my head, that's somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 TRILLION dollars. (What's a trillion bucks, give or take, between friends, right?)

By law, the U.S. government (or, whomever's responsible for issuing those bonds/notes, etc.) is liable for the full face value of that paper, if the current bond and noteholders can prove that there were fraudulent practices behind their issuance (in the first place).

This has already been proven...for all intents and purposes.

Therefore, whomever is maintaining ownership of those two entities--as of Monday that'll be you and me--assumes responsibilities for making good on any successful claims. Read this last sentence again.

On top of that, Freddie and Fannie currently hold something like $1 to $2 TRILLION in their own portfolio, in MBS's. (Mortgage-backed securities, etc.)

Lots of this paper is backed by housing stock purchased over the past few years at anywhere from 3% to 20% down(payments).

Unfortunately, in places like Nevada, California and Florida, residential real estate has devalued well beyond those percentages. Literally, millions of Americans have bought property over the past 5-10 years, taken out HELOC's and second mortgages (etc.), and they're currently upside-down in their homes (the paper they're making payments on is significantly more than the value of their currently devalued real estate).

So, if you wanted to be liberal with the numbers here, let's say the $1 to $2 trillion in paper that Fannie and Freddie currently hold, themselves, is now worth about 70% of its "booked value." If Fannie and Freddie hold $1 trillion in paper, that's a $300 billion writedown. If Fannie and Freddie hold $2 trillion in paper, that's a $600 billion writedown. Of course, in places like Nevada, California and Florida, many homeowners' property values have decreased by more than 50%! So, it depends upon what's actually behind the paper, once you drill down into it.

Who's going to pay for this $1-to-$2 trillion, give or take, in losses?

Go look in the mirror. Then go look at your children, your grandchildren, and your grandchildren's children.

Social security crisis? Healthcare and Medicare crisis?

Guess what? They've all just accelerated to Monday, September 8th, 2008.

Don't look too closely at our government's books, folks. In fact, you'll find copies of the 2008-2009 U.S. Fiscal Year Budget right alongside the latest Nora Roberts book at your local Barnes and Noble in coming months.

Oh, and what will happen to home prices as a result of all of this? With more foreclosures, and even less mortgage money around to spur ongoing purchases, properties will most likely continue to devalue for another presidential term...or maybe two. (Many economists are quietly predicting this fact.)

As we're already seeing, based upon the unemployment and declining retail (back-to-school) spending over the past few weeks, folks are now realizing they're upside-down in their homes, owing more to the bank than their property's now worth, and they've cut way back on their discretionary spending, too.

It's called a DEFLATIONARY SPIRAL. And it started to take hold about a year ago, despite the MSM's and the government's claims to the contrary.

With less demand for goods and services, prices come back down (after they've shot up for awhile). And, that's 'cause nobody's buying anything.

When nobody buys "stuff" retailers and service-sectors businesses go bankrupt. (That's already happening.) Then, more jobs are lost, and so on, and so on...

One more thing...when the private sector goes south, so do the tax revenues for our respective local and state governments (as well as our country, nationally).

In July, New York Governor Paterson held a quickly-called press conference to announce that his state (which is also my state), virtually overnight, had crossed the threshhold into a major fiscal emergency. Quarterly revenue(s) (Q2 '08) from the financial services sector (i.e.: Wall Street) dropped somewhere around $150 million from roughly $160 or $170 million dollars, in terms of projected quarterly tax payments from that sector, to something in the neighborhood of $10 million! What was already considered to be a budget crisis, has now become an "emergency."

What happens to municipal bonds, a traditional means by which governments obtain money in times of need, in scenarios like those set to dramatically escalate on Monday? Demand for municipal bonds, like virtually all other bonds, goes away.

This has already happened in towns like Vallejo, CA, which declared bankruptcy in the past year.

So, if you haven't figured it out here's what's going to happen: It's about to get much, much worse.

Read all about it right here, at The Automatic Earth.  Or, keep reading all the bullshit being pumped out by the government, the MSM and the corporate sector.

"Don't worry. Be happy."

Now where were we? Oh, yes...talking about Sarah Palin...

"We now return you to your regularly-scheduled programming."

UPDATE: Bondad, one of DKos' leading bloggers on the economy, has a decent piece on the rec list there, right now, entitled: "The Fannie/Freddie Bail-Out: A History and Overview." He's referring to the Fannie/Freddie matter as "bumpy ride." The reality is, this country's to a point where it's far beyond that, in terms of the severity of the situation before us.


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Didn't mean to bum y'all out... (2.00 / 6)

Someone here at MyDD once referred to me as a "Gloomy Gus," when I blog about economic issues...


by bobswern on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 03:55:05 AM EST

Re: Didn't mean to bum y'all out... (2.00 / 2)

I called you worse before I began to suspect you weren't nuts.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 05:55:36 AM EST
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Re: Didn't mean to bum y'all out... (2.00 / 2)

Don't kill the messenger. I know how it feels to be Cassandra, people just start to glaze over when you start talking about the realities of our situation.

Please keep reporting Bob.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:30:06 PM EST
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Re: Didn't mean to bum y'all out... (2.00 / 1)

Sometimes it sucks to be intellegent.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:33:09 PM EST
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It's the status quo's propaganda... (2.00 / 2)

...plain and simple. As awful as it sounds.

When one realizes this country was already upside down, in terms of being in the red (the increasing interest on our national debt, alone, makes refuting my comment a non-issue), then one may begin to grasp the true severity of the situation that's about to unfold before us.

This affects just about everything in our day-to-day lives, of course.

(i.e.: just one "small" example of this is the inability of the financial services sector to sell bonds to support student loans...and that's just one of the smaller problems that already confronts us.)


by bobswern on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 02:32:06 PM EST
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Re: It's the status quo's propaganda... (none / 0)

I was sort of watching "your money" today on cnn. Ali Belshi (sp) and others were discussing the national debt and they were discussing figures of over 75 TRILLION. I may have severly understated that figure. I can't find it on cnn but I will keep looking and send you the link. I will say they were very excited about the situation.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 06:50:14 PM EST
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Ok. Sorry I got that figure wrong. Apparently $75 trillion is what I owe. My bad.

I watched the Poppy Harlow interview again today on CNN's "Your Money" with David Walker, the former Comptroller General of the US under Clinton and Bush, and he stated that the figure is actually $53 trillion. He said:

We also have another problem and this one is much, much bigger. This country is in a fifty three trillion dollar financial hole, it grows by two to three trillion a year, and we need to start doing something about it, and they have little plans with regard to that.

Poppy wondered why we should care  (can't we just pass this on to our kids and grandkids)?

It means that our future economic growth, our future international position, our future standard of living, and even potentially our future national security is at risk. That's what it means, and people ought to care about those thing.

So Poppy wondered what we can do about this.

Well, the first thing they need to do is acknowledge now, both candidates, that we are in a $53 trillion hole, that they will try to make it a priority to deal with it over a number of years. Secondly, we need a capable, credible and bi-partisan commission to make recommendations to the next president, to the next congress, for an up or down vote, in the Congress, for statutory budget controls, Social Security reform, round one of tax reform and round one of health care reform. We can make a fifteen trillion dollar down payment, if we go about it the right way.

Poppy asked if the next POTUS doesn't follow any of these suggestions, what should Congress do?

Well the Congress is ultimately responsible for the budget. There the ones who have the fiscal purse if you will. And Congress, frankly, hasn't been helping lately. Since the budget controls expired in 2002, Washington has been totally out of control. It's been tax cuts, spending increases, entitlement expansions, unfunded wars, and a variety of other things. So Congress bears a responsibility as well. We need the Congressional leadership to move towards more spending discipline and move to making this commission a reality.

Poppy then turned to energy policy and the concern that we are spending 700 billion a year on oil from other countries. We are borrowing from China to buy oil from Saudi...

To which Walker responded by saying;

To fight in Iraq.

Walker said that we must deal with this and that we must conserve.

We consume too much in this country, including energy.

Oy.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 04:52:53 PM EST
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I think Obama needs to tell the American people how much of a mess he was left with when he takes office.  Then he can talk about his progress each year in the SOU speech.  He's not going to be able to bail us out even in two terms but if he can make a dent in the disaster it will help get another Democrat elected in 2016 to finish the job.  I hope I don't live long enough to ever see another Republican president.


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 04:08:11 AM EST

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He WILL have to do that, because he has to keep all the Dems in line to get stuff done. If we let the GOP start bullying our guys, we will waste SO much time.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 05:56:33 AM EST
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I want Barack Obama's first SOTU to say: "Ladies and gentlemen, Senators and Representatives, Mr. Vice President, my fellow Americans: The state of the Union is completely in the shitter.  We've got work to do."

I'm sick and tired of hearing how the state of the Union is good every damn year when we know it isn't.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 11:16:37 AM EST
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Yep, another debacle brought to you by the Republicans.

This one could be the worst yet.  If I were them, I'd be running for the hills, and praying that somebody would step in and fix it.

Can you imagine the Republicans trying to fix this?  That would be like pouring gasoline on a fire.


by AntiStipes on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 10:40:35 AM EST

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Personally I think that is exactly what they are doing. I get the feeling that McCain is the fall guy and they are trying to lose. My mother always says that every so often, after the repigs have totally fracked everything up, they let the Democrats in for a few years to fix everything up nice and neat, so they can come back raping and pillaging our country again.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:23:06 PM EST
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Let's be honest here. It's not alway the republicans that screw things up. Take Joe kennedy Sr. for example:

1919, he joined the prominent stock brokerage firm of Hayden, Stone & Co. where he became an expert in dealing in the unregulated stock market of the day, engaging in tactics that would later be labeled insider trading and market manipulation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._K ennedy,_Sr.

Some politicians just look out for themselves and their buds. Another example: Bill Clinton and NAFTA.

Now you could make a good argument that overall, Dems are better for the people than repubs but personally, I'm not in the tank for any politician although I favor more Dem policies.


by soyousay on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:58:57 PM EST
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Great factual post (2.00 / 5)

I have been saying it for the last four years. If something did not change soon our country was headed into essential bankruptcy, I predicted at best a very bad recession and more likely a depression and deflation and of course I was called a pessimist doom and gloom spreader. Unfortunately it looks like I am being vindicated, however, I really wish I was not...I really wish I was wrong. This is a very sad time in our country.


by netgui68 on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 11:21:03 AM EST

predictable (2.00 / 1)

The situation we are now in was pretty predictable. Fortunately for me, I have no debt. Those with a lot of debt will be really hurting.


by soyousay on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:47:22 PM EST

Now I know (none / 0)

why this is a bad sign or bad things, but weren't both of these organizations 'public' before they were 'private/public'?

Seems like the best thing would be to put them back to they way they originally were as public institutions.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 03:00:01 PM EST

Unfortunately... (2.00 / 4)

....back when they were a part of our government, exclusively, it was a matter of a few billion dollars, at most.

Today, we're talking about the entire house of cards that's propped-up our economy for the few years.

We're about 6 to 8 years--and one massive housing crisis--too late for this to be a viable option now.

But, we're (the government's) doing it anyway, aren't we? As most economists will tell you, we're backed into a corner on this matter. The result of not taking over these institutions now--as even the MSM is reporting--would be virtually instantaneous, massive depression.

So, we're "settling" for a slow, very painful, and much more drawn-out depression, instead.


by bobswern on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 03:15:37 PM EST
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